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Still on vacation, but wanted to bring you an update on the American flag vandal at Montebello H.S. (via the Whittier Daily News). He or she was from neighboring El Rancho USD: A student protest that resulted in a...

Honestly,
Let them have LA and everything south to..but they have to take Hollyweird with them :-) (and Bill and Hillary as an added bonus)

While we were off killing camel jockeys, the wetbacks invaded 12 million strong through the backdoor. If anyone doesn't think this is a war we are losing, just look at how they are changing our laws.

I don't think their arrogance will backfire on them. The Reconquista has succeeded. Americans do not have the will to turn them back.

It's pathetic.

Um Ralphie, while I really don't like the Presidents policies on illegal criminals that they all like to refer to as "immigrants", I can tell you that the color and scope of my neighborhood was well underway in previous administrations.

This was a problem that started as a small leak and when we didn't apply the fix early, has now become a deluge.

With all due respect, they can have Los Angeles. We just want our old neighborhood in Chicago back.

THanks

Indeed this Hispanic influx did begin some time ago, well before the Bush administration. Hispanic influx you say? Well there is certainly nothing wrong with any type of influx just as long as it's done LEGALLY. Our Hispanic friends and neighbors will hopefully realize that American citizens welcome them, but it's simply not fair for them to come to the United States, take advantage of our great country without doing so legally. To that end why shouldn't the US gov't take action to fix this debacle?

Mexican illegal immigration is nothing more than a passive aggressive conquering force. Just as in nature, when an alien species displaces the indigenous species, Mexican illegal aliens are displacing the now weakly beating American heart with Mexico's.

If the government gives 12 million lawbreakers amnesty then they should do so to all of the people who have committed felonies.

"While we were off killing camel jockeys, the wetbacks invaded 12 million strong through the backdoor. If anyone doesn't think this is a war we are losing, just look at how they are changing our laws."

This is refreshing. I wish more anti-illegals would come right out and admit the source of their problem with this: racism.

As for the article posted, I can imagine many Germans and Irish immigrants (likely the great- and great-great-grandparents of those most upset at the Mexican influx) in the late 19th century felt that "Chicago is Now Ours" or "New York is Now Ours." These Mexican illegals have not been here all too long; assimilation will come.

Bottom line, immigration is a very complicated issue, one whose solution isn't solved by chicken little concepts such as "reconquista" or raging over red herrings like a few immature high school students doing something stupid.

I'll leave you to your name-calling.

Hatemongering Bigot Doesn't think these demonstrations help immigrants...hehe.
Being a certified Hatemongering Bigot (tm) I am fully qualified to say that these demonstrations by our Mexican Brothers & Sisters,

I'm just glad that the latin influx is culturally so similar to the majority American culture.....

It isn't like France, where the immigrants are truly alien.

We deserve what we are getting. If we are not wiling to defend ourselves and our nations borders, then the country shouldn't belong to us.

JR,

There is a big difference between today's hispanic immigration and the Germans, Italians, Irish, Russian, etc. Namely, that those people came here to be Americans. As I've mentioned in prior postings, Italian-Americans are obviously very proud of their Italian heritage but there is no doubt in their minds that they are Americans first.

This is entirely different from the obvious loyalty to Mexico by a very large percentage of this generation's Mexican immigrants.

I am for increased legal immigration, but for people whose primary goal is not to be an economic parasite.

The MAJOR significant difference in the waves of previous immigration and today's invasion is that in the past immigrants were from a broad VARIETY of DIFFERENT nations and languages. They HAD to learn English because their own ethnic group was such a small minority of the larger group. Not so today, no way, no how. Not only is today's invasion of a uniform language, but for the most part of a uniform country. There is no "need" to accommodate themselves to English or to the culture because in many areas they have actually become the MAJORITY - an ILLEGAL majority, but a majority nevertheless. These people are not "immigrants" in the traditional sense of wishing to become part of the "melting pot". Instead they are an "Alien Nation" within what used to be the United States of America - but what is rapidly becoming the Polyglot States of AmeXica.

Let's see this for what it is. This was an opinion piece by the editors of Mexicana's in-flight magazine. Hmm, I wonder if those people have a vested interest in having a large Mexican diaspora in the United States. If those people are illegal, they're likely to cross by land. If the border is erased and everyone is legalized, they travel by air.

It's naked self interest and naked self promotion, although it's a point of view that is very likely to antagonize Mexicana's American customers. They've probably already calculated that the number of gringos customers who might boycott Mexicana will be more than offset by Mexican travelers.

Geographical constrain is a major factor for a succesful assimilation. There will be no assimilation whatsover for Mexicans when they can hop on their bus to cross the border to visit and/or stay with their relatives in Mexico during whatever time/days they wish.

This country must begin to understand that it is a Republic (governed by laws that must be enforced otherwise there is only anarchy) and not a Democracy (of which, none, in the history of the world has survived the electorate learning that it could vote itself money from the treasury until bankrupting the country and despotism resulted). Wake up citizens, turn off reality TV and Nascar, stop worrying about the next thing you just have to buy, and participate in the defense of your country. Otherwise, you'll wake up soon to realize you don't have one. Where would you like to live then, China, Russia, France, Mexico? I don't think so.....

Ok, here is the scoop. The poor mexican "we just wanna work" types come to the US, drive down wages, don't pay taxes, get free schooling, and think this is their right. What is wrong with this picture. Oh, I forgot, gangs too. The US missed a great opportunity to round them up for deportation.....last protest had them all in one place......

It was bound to happen. We must admit that the US is in a continent where practically everyone else speaks spanish. And by the way it was Americans settling in Texas (legally and illegally) that flooded that state outnumbering the natives and eventually caused the separation from Mexico. It's not an evil plan from obscure forces, just karma.

I am totally against all immigration from Mexico. We don't need more cheap labor. Cheap labor is destroying the future generations of Americans. Smart young people don't even dream of happy marriage and children anymore. They can't afford it. The next genreation of Americans are jetisoned in abortion clinics by people who are desperately attempting to gain enough education to sidestep the trend of direct competition with criminal armys of Mexicans , who have the built in advantage of not being encumbered by enshrined american rights such as social security, workers compensation, minimum wage laws, overtime rates, work safety standards.
The more hopeful among us plow ahead and start a family in spite of these government mandated disadvantages. And when the reality of their untenable situation hits them - they look into the eyes of their young ones knowing they can't feed them or house them or cloth them, the shock breaks their will.
We read the headline Husband kills family and self in suicide pact or Man goes on shooting spree in wake of family breakup.
These men didn't have a family break up , their family was stolen from them by illegal immigration when they found out they couldn't afford a family.
Comments like the first one Let them have LA are worthless. They already stole LA. If we don't fight them they will be stealing your town too. They probably already stole your kids and grandkids who will never be born.

"Mexicans , who have the built in advantage of not being encumbered by enshrined american rights such as social security, workers compensation, minimum wage laws, overtime rates, work safety standards"

Great advantage, not having those rights!!!

"Husband kills family and self in suicide pact or Man goes on shooting spree in wake of family breakup.
These men didn't have a family break up , their family was stolen from them by illegal immigration when they found out they couldn't afford a family"

Geez, we better start watching out, or everyone here is going to start shooting their own families. And it won't be their fault, the wetbacks made them do it.

Los Angeles is Taken??

So this is it. We just let LA be taken over. So that it becomes like El Paso A Mexican Barrio???
Whats wrong with this country? I dont want Mexican Flags waving in my country. Period. Welcoming immigration is one thing. Giving up America is another.

Peter Boyle did an interview with Bryanna Bevens, the associate editor of www.vdare.com earlier this week. Bryanna also blogs at Vdare. In answer to one of her blog entries, I sent her the following note discussing the now common problem of American politicians who can't differentiate between legal immigration and illegal aliens invading the U.S. and claiming this is their "right". Enjoy.

Amnesty because "America was built by immigrants"

The claim that since one’s ancestors were immigrants all illegal immigrationts should be allowed to become citizens is about as ridiculous an opinion as I can imagine.
[See http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2006/03/30/immigration-debate-update-immigrant-hardship-story-competition/]



Those of us critical of the illegal alien invasion did not arise ex nihlo. We have immigrant ancestors and are quite cognizant of the fact that America arose as a nation of immigrants.



To illustrate the fallacies of the politically correct immigrant experience as described by Arlen Specter and other open borders politicians, I should like to share a bit of my family’s immigrant past as an illustration of the true meaning of becoming American and living as an American.



My maternal grandfather emigrated from Ascoli Piceno, Italy in the early 1900’s. He trained to be a tailor and only attended school through elementary. He was very proud to be an American and proud to serve in the U.S. Army during WWI.



For many years he used his “Italian sounding” given name and family surname. But, facing a not-uncommon situation of negative opinion regarding Italians, he later changed his name to a much more english[-sounding] name. (I didn’t mention “discrimination” because I don’t know for a fact that he faced this; he didn’t talk about it.) I understand that he found this beneficial as a small but successful businessman.



One must recall that my grandfather worked in the era before 1960s civil rights laws and racial discrimination suits. This was before “group rights”, bilingualism, multiculturalism, white “guilt” and loathing of western culture by priviliged white elites. This was before affirmative action/reverse discrimination and the systematic attack on American history.



Like millions of others, my grandfather adapted to the situation here in the U.S. He changed his name to better “fit in”. He spoke english in his home and business. He reserved Italian for speaking with his parents and recent immigrants. He married a non-Italian woman (my grandmother) and “assimilated”. He was not a member of Italian ethnic or social organisations. His child, my mother, did not learn to speak italian or identify herself as a “hyphenated American”. My grandfather’s eyes were on his American future – not his Italian past. My mother grew up “American” – not ashamed to be “part Italian” and not viewing it any differently than being “part” Scottish, Irish and English. (Though, my father's mother was quite worried that my grandfather was a member of the "mafia"... A sign of the times...)



I have spent years reading about the experiences of immigrants to America. Each in their own turn, many groups have faced discrimination and hostility in America. In the earliest colonial days, religious Protestant sectarian hostility existed dividing even English settlers. Then came the Germans, Scots-Irish, Irish, Chinese, Italians, and east europeans… Ethnic tensions, discrimination and hostility are not unique to modern-day “people of color” or, “hispanics”. This dynamic has existed in American for centuries.



It is clear from the history books, that some of this hostility toward members of other european or asian ethnic groups by some Americans was quite violent. Black and white pictures of lynched “Italians” in parts of the South point out the fact that blacks are not the only group to face this sort of violence… It is the knowledge of this past violence which helps me to place the contemporary claims of “racism” and “discrimination” into an historical perspective.



While some may take it as a sign of indifference or racism, I’m not especially impressed by the loud claims of victimhood today. The modern American state has an extensive array of laws and regulations ready to be used against people identified as “white” accused of racism or discrimination (so long as they aren’t members of the powerful business classes). I’ve seen and heard the results of frivolous accusations rooted in calculated efforts for political or financial advantage or self-interest. The fact that so many “whites” are gullible fools or self-loathing victims is an indication of their general ignorance and shallow to non-existent knowledge of history.



Are my comments insensitive? I’m sure that today, on the eve of another initiative to surrender more of the U.S. to illegal aliens of Mexican origin, some will claim that the “hispanic” or “chicano” experience is “different” and they have suffered “worse”. Or, some Mexican nationalists will say that the U.S. or regions of the U.S. are Mexican “by right”. This really is preposterous.



The issues at hand today are, in my view, (1) assimilation of legal immigrants into the American variant of western civilazation and (2) the preservation of America for the benefit of American citizens which necessitates the institution of secure borders and regulation of foreign nationals within the U.S. Illegal aliens and even U.S. citizens who demand the rights of citizenship but show loyalty to a foreign flag, a foreign culture and a related demand for public support of a foreign (e.g., spanish) language are not loyal Americans – not “good Americans”. Such people are invaders and alien to the spirtit of American civilization. (This does not at all address the situation of illegals stealing the national wealth of Americans by placing demands on already deficient health and public education services.)



The reality is that these United States of America sit atop land once claimed by tribes of indiginous peoples distinct from the modern day Mexicans who are themselves, as Allan Wall and Steve Sailer have written, the partial descendants of Spaniards. Both the U.S. and Mexico are modern creations of people from europe – not expressions of pre-Colombian indigenous peoples. The modern-day Mexicans have about as much of “blood right” claim to Madrid, Spain as they do to Los Angeles, California. The only reason for the success of the 21st century alien conquistadores is that the American people and their political representatives lack the courage, integrity and self-assurance of the American Founders and earlier generations of Americans.

Since none of us have the right to this land, and all of us do, why not just combine our rights and let anyone live where they want (in both directions) and of course, this will include improving the conditions to live south, so that people from the resulting Union can just as well work in NY as they will be able to retire in Cancun

If the people who think the mass influx of spanish-language, mexico-loyal illegal immigrants is no big deal had to send THEIR KIDS to public schools wherein half the kids can't even speak basic English they might reconsider the impact of illegal immigration.

Unfortunately, the only people I see discussing it on TV are either wealthy enough to send their kids to private schools or live in white suburbs. The rest of us are screwed.

Where is the damn DNC who cares about the American working man and woman? Oh yeah they are in bed with the Country Club Republicans. The right is demanding action, where the Hell is the American left? Like it or not they consider you the same as those of us on the right,your just an American.

I'm a Democrat and I my thought is that that Democratic Party has essentially sold its soul for the hispanic vote. Cheap labor is now an unwritten party platform. Of course they deny it. Politically, I don't know where to go, and they know that.

The fact that a majority of the Senators from the two major parties seem to both agree to legalise millions of illegal aliens and the creation of new or expansion of old skilled trade and white collar "non-immigrant visa programs" (F-4 is new and H-1b is old)should be an indication that the pro-outsourcing anti-American worker ("anti" ans in against all middle class American workers) business lobbies are the ones calling the shots. They certainly proved powerful enough to cause Kerry to back down from his anti-outsourcing "Benedict Arnold" comments. Go back and read the commentaries of Pat Buchanan in response to NAFTA, GATT and the WTO. He has been right on the money re. "free trade". Paul Craig Roberts writes about this too and has a special focus on guest worker programs designed to replace American white collar workers.

I find it very interesting that NIV guest worker programs that involve the use of primarily Indian and Chinese workers in the U.S. has been concealed in a bill supposedly designed to deal with border security and millions of illegal aliens stressing out American schools, hospitals and social services infrustructure paid for by American taxpayers.

Who is behind the NIV programs? The same people who want all the low-wage foreign workers in the U.S. The cheap labor lobby...

The Great Protest Fiasco
I had not wanted to make this debates about Mexicans but then there is the Aztlan, La Raza, MeCHa, Reconquista fiasco - political Mexican groups who would want nothing more than to recuperate the southwest for Mexico again.

What balls.
"Los Angeles is now ours."

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. I don't know if I'm more distressed because it's actually true, or because the reconquistas are willing to admit it publicly...

yep.....Joe's a mexican.

LET'S CONSIDER THE VOICE OF A TRUE HEAVYWEIGHT ( WINSTON CHURCHILL) AT A TIME (1939)WHEN AN ALIEN HORDE WAS MASSING TO INVADE AND DESTROY HIS COUNTRY'S SOVEREIGNTY:
"STILL, IF YOU WILL NOT FIGHT FOR THE RIGHT WHEN YOU CAN EASILY WIN WITHOUT BLOODSHED, IF YOU WILL NOT FIGHT WHEN YOUR VICTORY WILL BE SURE AND NOT TOO COSTLY, YOU MAY COME TO THE MOMENT WHEN YOU WILL HAVE TO FIGHT WITH ALL THE ODDS AGAINST YOU AND ONLY A PRECARIOUS CHANCE OF SURVIVAL. THERE MAY EVEN BE A WORSE CASE. YOU MAY HAVE TO FIGHT WHEN THERE IS NO HOPE OF VICTORY, BECAUSE IT IS BETTER TO PERISH THAN LIVE AS SLAVES."

Yep, it's happening. While we Americans were busy playing video games, and getting so caught up in the next best thing, Mexicans were busy doing what they do best, making babies and stoking their simmering hatred for us gringos and gringas. Ok, our collective bad.

But the TOTAL LOSERS who claim that all is lost, and that we deserve it or that it's karma and who are just QUITTING - well, I've got some colorful language for you!

Don't be a loser and a quitter. Be brave, suck it up, and do the following:
1) Call and write your Senators! Daily! (go to the FAIR site to find out how) Also call and write your State Representatives, to let them know that you support their stance, and that you are proud of them for taking a brave and patriotic stance.
2) Tell all those you know who believe as you do to call and write their state senators and representatives as well. Also tell them to tell everyone they know.
3) State your position wherever possible, to thereby encourage others to have the courage to stand up. Courage is contagious.
3) Organize and get out in the street, and demonstrate!

A few weeks ago, I was watching "Saving Private Ryan" marveling at the courage for those men to "do the right thing" As the movie ends, Tom Hanks character says to Private Ryan "Earn it!" Well, I say to all true Americans, "Earn it!"

I don't believe I've ever seen Americans so united about a issue. But Washington is still not listening. The problem is that the Mexican protesters are in the streets while Americans are appearing to be reaching a near-boiling point while sitting behind their computer monitors & TV screens. Big difference there.

We are answering the polls but without any visibility Washington just won't get it.

These protests are being organized by La Raza (The race), the Mexica Movement and others. The uneducated Mexican masses are being told that our Southwest is rightfully theirs, we stole it from them. The Mexican Govt. is only encouraging such groups by their actions. This is an act of war as far as I can see an these migrants are invaders without guns (unless you count the gangs).

The Mexicans are saying that they'll pick a day when no ILLEGALS go to work. This will supposedly stop the country. No. The country will stop when we Americans call-in all on the same day.

Better yet, there is a way that congress will listen. Contacting your Rep & Senators will get some notice but when millions of Americans start calling their loan companies, credit card companies and investment firms to tell them - "you won't get any money out of me until YOUR people call Washington and put a stop to this fiasco, NOW!" That will get an immediate response out of Washington.

Only the monied lobbies can make the politricksters realize that the power is with the people.

Call me a loser, a pessimist, I don't care. I just don't believe the American people have the guts to stand up to the Washington elite to demand that these 21 (

As a white female, born and raised in East Los Angeles, I am almost ashamed to claim I graduated from Garfield High School. Years ago, whites comprised maybe 25% of the population of Garfield. Most of my friends are of Mexican heritage. They all speak English, they do not fly Mexican flags, and most think Viva La Raza was an album by El Chicano in the 70's.

Fast forward 35 years. The "new generation" thinks Che Guevara is a hero and illegal Mexicans have the same rights as born and raised in the USA persons of Mexican heritage. This new generation cannot or more likely, will not, see the damage that the Mexican illegals are doing to this country.

Three things that have personally impacted me as a result of illegal Mexicans in Arizona and California.

1. Fell down on my patio-put a pretty nasty gash on my nose. Husband drove me to the closest hospital-54 miles. I was asked for my ACCESS card(Arizona welfare medical system). I said no, I have Blue Cross. Sorry, we can't accept you-you must have ACCESS. Turned around and looked at the waiting room. Asked the occupants how many people speak English? I speak Spanish fluently. Out of 24 people in the waiting room-only 3 spoke English. They got medical care, I did not. Had to go to another hospital. And now, due to lack of immediate care, have to have plastic surgery, which is NOT covered by BC, when a few quick stitches, in a timely fashion, could have solved the problem.

2. Have an ailing mother-in-law. She needs 24/7 nursing care or a nursing home. She has Medicare. Medicare doesn't cover a lot of the costs. We pick up the difference, which is a lot more than we can comfortably afford. But my neighbor, who is illegal from Mexico (lived here 8 years) had a horrible traffic accident. Got all kinds of surgery, 7 months physical therapy AND got to bring his wife and kids from Mexico for 30 days. That was 17 months ago. They are now on the Arizona welfare system under "humanitarian" relief. He can't work, they are soaking up money which could go to my mother-in-law, and they are now going to have a baby, which will be an American citizen and get even more of our taxpayer funded "goodies". As my husband and I struggle to give my mother-in-law a decent last few years of life.

3. One of the young men (US citizen) who works for my husband has two parents who are illegal. They have been herein the USA 26 years. They do not speak English. Their youngest daughter, 13, another US citizen, got pregnant by one of the local farm workers (illegal). The neighborhood went to Mom and Dad, offering help to save this young girl. She is a straight A honor student, with a bright future. The neighborhood (including the school social worker) were told "it's the Mexican way". What??? This is AMERICA, not Mexico. Now the young girl is milking the system, stating the boyfriend left her (not true) and she is getting welfare, food stamps, medical and subsidized housing. Mom and Dad have moved in with daughter, as it is now free rent. The school social worker has reported this to Arizona social services, but unless they actually catch the BF at the house, there is nothing they can do. BF makes sure he doesn't show up until about 7:00PM and leaves by 5:00AM. And they can't kick Mom and Dad out, as the girl is underage. All this aid (probably to the tune of $2000 per month) and we can't get any help for my mother-in-law.

When will it stop???

Woah! Ross, where did all these people come from? I agree that it started as a small leak and now it is like a raging river. I hope we can do something about it before long, because all the illegals are helping our country become broke.

I been a legal resident of this your great country for 18 years, and I LOVE IT with all my heart! The discrimination, prejudice and bias against American citizens by people that actually have to protect you, is proposterous. How you can take that without PROTESTING?! Agree with the comments above: write to Washington and to your elected state representative. Voice your feelings to them. That's exactly what I'm doing.

Criminals. Parasites. Wetbacks. Aliens. These are just a few of the several names used on this site in a vain attempt to humiliate and vilify ALL Mexicans, legal or not. Many of the complaints on this page lack substance, but they flood with racism, arrogance and stupidity.

True, I am an American citizen, born on American soil, but it is Mexican blood that runs through my veins. I will not deny my heritage simply because people like those who have posted ridiculous accounts, or rather petty complaints, think "white is right." I will not forfeit my chance to
learn my parents native language simply to satisfy your ethnocentric views.

Granted, I will also not deny that this land has given my family many opportunities. Had my parents stayed in Mexico, there is a great chance I would never have made it to the University of Notre Dame; nonetheless, it is the strong traditional Mexican values that instilled the strength in my parents to send all six of their children to college despite economic and social difficulties.

It is those generations which have begun to assimilate, almost all citizens, who have become the so called gangsters, drug dealers, etc. of this society. However, they are truly the victims, America has taught them to forget their heritage and we are left with children who grow up learning to hate themselves based on the color of their skin or the pronunciation of their last name. They are lost in this country, and being the recipients of an unequal distribution of education, they are forced to fight your wars, clean your house, pick, cook and serve your food.

The United States has not enforced tighter immigration laws because it recognizes the true economic benefits of the undocumented. Those of you who hold misconceptions and consider us burdens to this country are not fully informed and should learn the facts.

Your words are tainted with hatred and fear. You tell us we are less, but this resentment stems from the fact that you KNOW we are more. Like cowards, you fear anything new because it threatens your xenophobic reversed American ideals. I dare you to be civilized, become educated and come to the table with better offerings.

Chicano,

I agree with you that there are some participants in this discussion, including comments on my blog, which are tainted with hatred and fear.

However, I would also submit that not all people who disapprove of the current state of affairs and the recent behavior of illegal immigrants are hateful or fearful.

I'll take myself as an example. I am pro-immigrant...legal immigrant. I think we should massively increase the number of legal foreign workers at all skill levels. I recognize that this country is a country of immigrants (including my great-grandparents) and that immigrants made us great.

But comments like your suggestion that the 2nd-generation Mexican-Americans are "victims" are ridiculous. America did not teach them to forget their heritage. The Mexican immigrants have no fundamental reason that the outcome of their immigration experience must be different from every other group that immigrated here in the past 150 years.

And yet the outcome is different. Other groups came here to be American first, while maintaining pride and greater or lesser degrees of language and custom from their originating culture. Most of these groups assimilated well, encouraged their children to learn English and get an eduction.

Second-generation Mexicans do indeed seem to be the heart of many crime and social problems in some major urban areas...but by definition they are not illegal aliens. They may be criminals for other reasons...as you say, gangs, drugs, etc. But they are American citizens. However, their allegiance, as well as the allegiance to many new illegal immigrants is clearly and overtly to Mexico first.

So, in another posting, I believe I used the word "parasite" to describe some of these people...and I do not apologize for the use of that word in that context. People who come here to live off our welfare system and our health care system while intending only to bleed the country as best they can while maintaining their allegiance to another country...whether Mexico or anywhere else...are parasites.

I did not and do not say that all illegal aliens are parasites, nor all Mexican-Americans. That term is reserved for those who come here with the intention of taking everything they can while contributing as little as possible in terms of being a productive part of society (legal or otherwise).

As for an "unequal distribution of education", I can't say I care at all...there is no right to education, particularly for non-citizens, and particularly for non-citizens who consider themselves first and foremost citizens of some other country forever. Similarly, there is no right to health care. The sooner that the country realizes that, the better off we'll all be.

Maybe your family found education important, but if you look at education statistics, the proportion of hispanic kids who drop out of school is absolutely astounding. Even if I did think that educating everyone was government's responsibility (which I don't), why should we waste money on people who will take a few years of school and then leave? Better not to have them in school in the first place. You were lucky to have good and strong parents. It seems that much of the Hispanic community does not have such good fortune. Your community better start taking more responsibility, emphasizing much better parenting, if you want your next generation not to end up as 50% of the prison population and having a justifiable public stigma against it.

As for "forced to fight your wars, clean your house, pick, cook and serve your food", that is pure horseshit. Go find me one Mexican...or a Pakistani or Nigerian or Mongolian...immigrant to the USA who is FORCED to do anything. Immigrants come here for opportunity and most find that the opportunity to do something that you apparently think is beneath them is well worth the effort and better than what they could do in their home countries. If they don't like the opportunity, they can leave.

The more that people talk like you do, demanding non-existent rights for non-citizens, the more you encourage people like me who have always been very pro-immigrant to reconsider our positions. Who the hell are you to demand that I pay taxes to support anybody, but particularly people who are here illegally, often pay no taxes themselves, vote in elections in other countries, refuse to learn English or attempt to integrate, and treat their hosts with contempt.

The more I think about what you are saying, the more I think your views are fairly representative of the illegal alien community (despite your being American)...and the more angry I get. I am a good barometer of what the actions of (mostly hispanic) immigrants lately are doing to American public opinion.

Yes, immigrants (including illegals) do bring substantial economic benefit to the USA, but illegals impose incredibly large costs as well. These costs have to stop. I tell you now: I am willing to let illegal aliens be turned away from hospitals in order to get the message out that health care is NOT free and is NOT a right. I will most likely vote for a Colorado ballot measure which I expect to see in November to deny taxpayer-funded services to illegal immigrants. My sympathy for illegal immigrants will probably not recover until I see a grass-roots movement among hispanics to encourage integration and a desire to become, at some point, Americans first and Mexicans second.

What do you mean "come to the table with better offerings"? This is the USA, not some province of Mexico. If illegal immigrants (and criminal legal immigrants or citizens) want to stay here and stay free, THEY need to come to US with "better offerings". The burden of justification is not on me to prove why illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed to bleed our taxpayers through welfare enrollment and bankrupting hospitals. The burden is on immigrants to demonstrate at least a plausible likelihood of their becoming productive participants in American society.

Yes, I'm getting angrier by the moment...but it has nothing to do with hatred or fear or cowardice. It's the anger of being abused and taken for granted by those to whom our country provides opportunity.

How do you get Americans to do the jobs only illegal aliens will do?

Get rid of welfare.

When there is a city like New Orleans with about half the residents sitting on their lazy asses drawing a government check where is the motiviation to do anything? They don't even have to walk to the mailbox anymore.

But if given a choice, and America is all about choices, to starve or pick crops then the choice should be easy.

Is there going to be an organized effort to hold a patriotic citizen rally in favor of enforcement? Hopefully by the millions, realistically by the hundreds. Because the soccer moms and NASCAR dads will be too a-pathetic to participate.

Scream all you want about illegal immigration. Congress is going give America a screwing the likes have not been seen since FDR or LBJ.

Just came back from a vacation in Europe. As bad as you think it is here we ought to count our lucky stars that our Illegals are at least from a western culture. Muslims in Europe are a real threat. This is a global problem. At worst, we'll be forced to watch Univision on Saturday nights once we're subjagated.

All this BS about this nation being built by immigrants is WRONG! This nation was built by PIONEERS called PILGRIMS.

Also, do not tell me all the illegals aliens can't be sent packing...As I remember America at one time had an operation from then President Eisenhower I think called "Operation Wetback". Somehow over a million were deported. I basically do not want to pay for illegals anymore nor do I want my children anywhere near the crimes they commit. GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY AND STAY THE HELL OUT!!! YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE ANYMORE.

WANT TO SEE HOW CALIFORNIA WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE IF WE DONT STOP THIS AMAZING INFLUX OF MEXICANS?

20 Miles from San Diego stands Tijuana - Highly Criminalized, No Laws, with thousands of illegals ready to jump into California.

We Need to stop this. Illegals have the courage to go out and protest. Why dont Americans go out and protest for their country?

Imagine 100 million Americans putting out a demonstration to protect their country.

Rossputin, thank you so much for your much needed comments. More Americans need to be speaking out with the truth about illegal immigration. This issue is completely out of control. It is called illegal immigration for a reason. The key word here is "illegal". However, a lot of people seem to be side-stepping the many truths of this issue.

Illegal immigrants are exactly that...Illegal. I don't care how much money we save by paying you to do the same work any 16 year old (American) could do. Go Home!
Those that are legal, more power to you, but please remember your new country is America. Try acting like it.
Follow the same laws, pay the same taxes, get the same treatment!

We should have more rules for illegal immigrants trying to become citizens of the USA. Part of the reqirement should be to serve two years in the US Military, one this would stop us from ever having to start the draft two it would teach immigrants a trade and third it would instill a since of pride.

Pro-Illegal Rights Marches were a BIG BIG MISTAKE! It showed Americans from coast to coast, the extent of the invasion of America by Anti-US foreign nationals across our unsecured borders. You set in motion a backlash that will now be your downfall. Forget about Aztlan, forget about Amnesty......You will see an ever growing amount of Americans that will say, "enough is enough" this is going to stop NOW!

The protests are the reason I am here now, looking at what I can do to defeat this hostile invasion. We will not stop until all illegals are repatriated and our Sovereignty and English language is restored.

Tip: Don't bite the hand that feeds.

Mexico is known not to have a middle
class.

If you live in mexico, you are probably very rich, or kinda poor.

Southern Califonia has been illegally turned into Middle Class Mexico. It started slow and easy, but is now a full scale invasion, while the U.S. Government sits on its hands.

Below are simple ways that Illegal Aliens from Mexico tranfer U.S. currency into their wallets:
- Ice Crean Carts
- Fruit Sellers on Freeway Offramps
- Fruit Trucks
- Street Vendors

Do Not Support any of these activities, Instead call the local authorities and inquire about the proper lincensing needed to operate such 'businesses'

Keep America Clean

To "An American":

I let your comment go up on the site, but I have to tell you I strongly object to the very end of it.

People can debate about whether it's "an invasion" in any sense, or what state or federal government is or isn't doing.

But the idea of "Keep America Clean" sounds frighteningly nazi.