Hickenlooper's global warming confusion

On Wednesday, the Grand Junction Sentinel reported on Denver Mayor and presumptive Democratic gubernatorial nominee John Hickenlooper’s meeting with the National Western Mining Conference.  Hickenritter spoke briefly about natural resources, but…

the audience was more interested in Hickenlooper’s stance on climate change, particularly after the mayor’s statement at a United Nations conference in Copenhagen last December that he wanted to “sit down with every skeptic (and) walk them through all the evidence.”

The mayor backed off that statement, saying climate change is like having homeowners’ insurance. A house may never catch fire, but it’s smart to guard against it anyway.

“I don’t think the scientific community has decided with certainty that this climate change is as catastrophic as so many people think,” he said

In a state with many energy-related jobs, and the potential for many more if we could eliminate the insane dominance which Democrats have given environmental radicals and their elk masters over rationality, Hickenlooper’s position(s) are troubling.

Either he is confused and hypocritical, saying on one hand that we have to do something and on the other hand that maybe climate change isn’t so bad, or the latter statement is just pandering to the audience and his real view is the former.  Again, either situation should cause great concern to voters and I will address either possibility, though I believe his real view is the former view, namely that “something must be done.”

As far as the apparent confusion/hypocrisy, what exactly is Hick trying to say when he proposes that we must “insure” against some hypothetical damage from “climate change” while saying a few moments later that the issue may not be “catastrophic"?  Are we to massively tax and regulate for the equivalent of an environmental hangnail?

But Hick’s confusion/hypocrisy isn’t nearly as important as the truly fundamental flaws in his views on “climate change".

First, it’s clear that he believes the “science” supports a view that man-made climate change is real and that the planet is warming.  Both of these are more likely false than true.

You’ve all heard about ClimateGate, GlacierGate, the “Hockey Stick” lie, and other unethical and criminal behavior by climate alarmists.  If the data really showed dangerous warming, would they have had to manipulate data, lie about data, delete data, and prevent skeptical articles from being published?  No, the climate alarmists are simply promoting propaganda and silencing skeptics because they are chasing enormous grants from non-profits, the UN, and various governments, with others in the same crowd chasing political power – in particular chasing government control over anything that requires energy to produce or to transport.  You get the idea.

As big or bigger than these fiascos is the fact that most recent data do not point to warming and – something that few people have thought much about – that much of the so-called warming of prior decades is likely to be due to measurement error and urban heat island effect rather than true climate change.  For example, the number of weather stations being used to measure worldwide temperatures has been cut from about 6,000 in the 1970s to about 1,000 today.   And within the sensors that are left, the alarmist institutions like NASA which do most of the data analysis seem to selectively accept data from the sensors most likely to show warming, i.e. sensors in warm, industrial, and asphalt-rich environments.  And it’s not just in America

So, when Hick says he wants to sit down with skeptics and walk them through the evidence, my response is “Heal Thyself.”

Second, Hickenritter parroted the idea that we should insure against climate change damage much as one might insure against one’s house catching on fire.  That concept, more formally known as the Precautionary Principle, is logically flawed and economically dangerous.

I’ve written before about the Precautionary Principle as follows: The “precautionary principle” is a high-minded-sounding concept that argues we should attack world economies in order to prevent something that humans probably have little influence over in any case, namely climate change. Much like other anti-capitalist rhetoric, the “precautionary principle” is anything but precautionary as its proponents want to do certain damage to the lives of real people in a quixotic attempt to prevent uncertain change. It is “precautionary” in the same sense that killing the patient to prevent his flu from getting worse is.

This dangerous view (which is, or at least was, shared by John McCain) argues that we have a responsibility to future generations to prevent man-made global warming.  This begs the question not only of whether man-made global warming is real but whether it is likely to be harmful.  Man-made impacts on climate are likely far too small to be relevant, like the change in sea level due to a rainstorm.  Furthermore, while certain locations might suffer from widespread warming (which, I repeat, is not happening), modest warming is likely to be a net positive for the planet by allowing more widespread agriculture, making food less expensive for the world’s several billion inhabitants.  (I should note that most people think of the likeliest early “victims” of global warming as low-lying islands like Tuvalu and the Maldives.  However, data show that there has been no significant sea level rises around the islands; indeed the sea level around Tuvalu seems to have fallen slightly in recent years.)

So, the Precautionary Principle essentially says that we should lower our children’s standard of living and our nation’s current and future economic growth to insure against extremely unlikely future negative climate impacts.  And if that isn’t stupid enough, it also assumes that there is something we can do about climate change, an assumption which represents little more than hubris, thinking that humans have far more control and impact on a planet-wide scale than we actually have.  Even supporters of “cap and trade” don’t claim that it will lower temperatures by more than a small fraction of one degree in a century.  But for that theoretical reduction, which is less than the annual natural variation, they want to tax trillions of dollars from the US economy over those years.  Doesn’t sound like a good deal to me.

To use Hick’s own metaphor, he’s suggesting that you should spend a million dollars to insure a two hundred thousand dollar house – and keep in mind that most damage to houses ends up being far less than a house is worth, and that most homeowners never need to make a claim.

It is not “smart to guard against” something that is extremely unlikely when the cost of that so-called insurance is certain substantial damage to your own quality of life and that of your children and grandchildren.

Hickenlooper is sort of stuck here, because he needs to mobilize the radical environmentalist and anti-capitalist Democratic base to vote for him for governor.  Therefore, he has to risk the votes of people who actually work for a living in order to pander to the left.  He’s in a no-win situation, but he’s there by his own doing.

Anyone who works in a business which uses energy to manufacture or transport a product should be very afraid of John Hickenlooper.

  • Mark Smither
    Comment from: Mark Smither
    02/12/10 @ 02:32:17 pm

    It's a great short read because the blogger failed to include what the NASA scientist really meant with his criticism.

    http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/nasa-scientist-adds-to-views-on-climate-panel/

    Here's a quote from Dr Lacsis regarding deniers who quote him: "Little do they realize that the basic thrust of my criticism of the I.P.C.C. draft was really to register a clear complaint that I.P.C.C. was being too wishy-washy and was not presenting its case for anthropogenic impact being the principal driver of global warming as clearly and forcefully as they could, and should."

    Here's another: "Had I been asked to write this chapter (which I wasn’t), I would describe “understanding and attributing of climate change” as simply a problem in physics, which it actually is. I would have started the Executive Summary with:
    Human-induced warming of the climate system is established fact."

    Also, could you tell Glacier National Park that they're wrong about the disappearance of their namesakes by 2020?

    http://coloradoindependent.com/47382/as-politicians-waffle-on-climate-change-glaciers-exit-glacier-national-park

    Perhaps we can rename it Hoax National Park.

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    02/12/10 @ 02:51:21 pm

    Mark,

    Thanks for the update.

    Interesting, and of course it means I used Lacsis out of context, though it certainly didn't read that way at the time.

    In any case, I have deleted the offending paragraph and I leave it to readers to follow your link instead to read the words of a scientist who is not the brave (and honest) soul I thought.

    RGK

  • Mark Smither
    Comment from: Mark Smither
    02/12/10 @ 03:01:15 pm

    I would just suggest that you do a little more research rather just repeating other bloggers' assertions. (Sometimes.)

    I know you are capable of it as evidenced by other things you've written.

    Anything that starts out with "according to Foxnews" is certainly worthy of fact-checking in my opinion.

    Along that line, I sent the following note to Fox and Friends, Fox Reports and the Factor:

    "Does Fox News have any type of forum for us to relay questions regarding claims made on News or Opinion shows?


    My parents watch Fox News and the Fox opinion shows regularly. My mother sent me the following which I believe was from a column in The Hill but was repeated on your program.

    When I cut this I didn't get the author. It was written by Dick Morris. Whose fuzzy math do we believe? Both liberals and conservatives juggle the numbers to score points.

    "President Obama was disingenuous today when he said that the budget deficit he faced “when I walked in the door” of the White House was $1.3 trillion. He went on to say that he only increased it to $1.4 trillion in 2009 and was raising it to $1.6 trillion in 2010.
    As Joe Wilson said “you lie.”
    Here are the facts:
    In 2008, Bush ran a deficit of $485 billion. By the time the fiscal year started on October 1, 2008, it had gone up by another $100 billion due to increased recession-related spending and depressed revenues. So it was $600 billion. That was the real Bush deficit.
    But when the fiscal crisis hit, Bush had to pass TARP in the final months of his presidency which cost $700 billion. Under the federal budget rules, a loan and a grant are treated the same. So the $700 billion pushed the deficit — officially — up to $1.3 trillion. But not really. The $700 billion was a short term loan. $500 billion of it has already been repaid.
    So what was the real deficit Obama inherited? The $600 billion deficit Bush was running plus the $200 billion of TARP money that probably won’t be repaid (mainly AIG and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac). That totals $800 billion. That was the real deficit Obama inherited.
    Then…he added $300 billion in his stimulus package, bringing the deficit to $1.1 trillion. And falling revenues and other increased welfare spending pushed it up to $1.4 trillion.
    So, effectively, Obama came close to doubling the deficit.
    His program of fiscal austerity in this new budget is a joke. If he wanted to lower the deficit, here’s what he could do:
    1. Cancel the remaining $500 billion of stimulus spending and
    2. Cancel the $300 billion of spending in stimulus II.
    Presto! The deficit is cut in half.
    Those are the real numbers."

    I googled it and came up with the following column/link that purports that his numbers are off. http://mediamatters.org/blog/201002040034




    Can you take a look at them and let us know which are more accurate?"


    (I'm still waiting for a response.)

    One would think that a Fair and Balanced network presumably running record profits could afford an ombudsman.

    In lieu of that, could you take a look at Morris' claims and see if they are accurate or meant to misinform?

  • Mark Smither
    Comment from: Mark Smither
    02/12/10 @ 03:07:52 pm

    "In any case, I have deleted the offending paragraph and I leave it to readers to follow your link instead to read the words of a scientist who is not the brave (and honest) soul I thought."

    Maybe he's just a SCIENTIST.

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    02/12/10 @ 03:16:00 pm

    Maybe...and maybe not. After all, look at Michael Mann, Phil Jones, etc. These guys are chasing money and fame through the hoax of AGW. It doesn't stand the smell test.

  • Mark Smither
    Comment from: Mark Smither
    02/12/10 @ 03:25:14 pm

    "(I'm still waiting for a response.)

    One would think that a Fair and Balanced network presumably running record profits could afford an ombudsman.

    In lieu of that, could you take a look at Morris' claims and see if they are accurate or meant to misinform?"

    I was sending this to you (Ross.)

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    02/12/10 @ 03:29:49 pm

    Mark,

    I don't have time to research everything.

    Why don't you do it and let me know what you think?

    By the way, no matter how much you dislike Fox, no rational person could argue that they're as biased as Media Matters.

    RGK

  • Mark Smither
    Comment from: Mark Smither
    02/12/10 @ 05:38:33 pm

    OK. So it was a loaded question. From my observation, Dick Morris purposely misinformed. I have a problem with that because my parents watch Fox and Friends in the AM and then switch to Rush followed by Hannity in the afternoon and on to Glen/Fox at night. They believe that those folks share their "values". I know my parents' values don't include "lying". What if Media Matters is right and Dick Morris/Fox New and Opinion is WRONG?

    I do not believe that the END justifies the MEANS if the MEANS include intentional misinformation. Especially if the purveyors of that misinformation hoist themselves up as morally superior to their opposition.

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    02/12/10 @ 08:01:34 pm

    Mark,

    Here's a WSJ piece (which happened to come out just today) by Michael Boskin, former Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors to George W. Bush. This may address some of your budget/deficit/debt questions:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703630404575053411783075990.html?

    By MICHAEL J. BOSKIN

    President Barack Obama's 2011 budget lays out a stunningly expensive big-government spending agenda, mostly to be paid for years down the road. He proposes to increase capital gains, dividend, payroll, income and energy taxes. But the enormous deficits and endless accumulation of debt will eventually force growth-inhibiting income tax hikes, a national value-added tax similar to those in Europe, or severe inflation.

    On average, in the first three years of the 10-year budget plan, federal spending rises by 4.4% of GDP. That's more than during President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society and Vietnam War buildup and President Ronald Reagan's defense buildup combined. In those same three years, spending on average hits the highest level in American history (25.1% of GDP), save the peak of World War II. The average deficit of $1.4 trillion (9.6% of GDP) is over three times the previous 2008 record.

    Remarkably, President Obama will add more red ink in his first two years than President George W. Bush—berated by conservatives for his failure to control domestic spending and by liberals for the explosion of military spending in Iraq and Afghanistan—did in eight. In his first 15 months, Mr. Obama will raise the debt burden—the ratio of the national debt to GDP—by more than Reagan did in eight years.

    Some specific proposals are laudable: permanently indexing the Alternative Minimum Tax for inflation, part of the increased R&D funding, reform of agriculture subsidies, a future freeze on one-sixth of the budget (only after it balloons for two years). But these are swamped by the huge expansion and centralization of government.

    True, as he often reminds us, President Obama inherited a recession and fiscal mess. Much of the deficit is the natural and desirable result of the deep recession.

    As tax revenues fall much more rapidly than income, these so-called automatic stabilizers cushioned the decline in after-tax income and helped natural business-cycle dynamics and monetary policy stabilize the economy. But Mr. Obama and Congress added hundreds of billions of dollars a year of ineffective "stimulus" spending—more accurately characterized as social engineering and pork—when far more effective, less expensive options were available.

    The Obama 10-year budget—unprecedented in its spending, taxes, deficits and accumulation of debt—is by a large margin the most risky fiscal strategy in American history. In his Feb. 1 budget message, Mr. Obama said, "We cannot continue to borrow against our children's future." But that is exactly what he proposes to do.

    He projects a cumulative deficit of $11.5 trillion by 2020. That brings the publicly held debt (excluding debt held inside the government, e.g., Social Security) to 77% of GDP, and the gross debt to over 100%. Presidents Reagan and George W. Bush each ended their terms at about 40%.

    The deficits are so large relative to GDP that the debt/GDP ratio keeps growing and then explodes as entitlement costs accelerate in subsequent decades. So worrisome is this debt outlook that Moody's warns of a downgrade on U.S. Treasury bonds, and major global finance powers talk of ending the dollar's reign as the global reserve currency.

    Ken Rogoff of Harvard and Carmen Reinhart of Maryland have studied the impact of high levels of national debt on economic growth in the U.S. and around the world in the last two centuries. In a study presented last month at the annual meeting of the American Economic Association in Atlanta, they conclude that, so long as the gross debt-GDP ratio is relatively modest, 30%-90% of GDP, the negative growth impact of higher debt is likely to be modest as well.

    But as it gets to 90% of GDP, there is a dramatic slowing of economic growth by at least one percentage point a year. The likely causes are expectations of much higher taxes, uncertainty over resolution of the unsustainable deficits, and higher interest rates curtailing capital investment.

    The Obama budget takes the publicly held debt to 73% and the gross debt to 103% of GDP by 2015, over this precipice. The president's economists peg long-run growth potential at 2.5% per year, implying per capita growth of 1.7%. A decline of one percentage point would cut this annual growth rate by over half. That's eventually the difference between a strong economy that can project global power and a stagnant, ossified society.

    Such vast debt implies immense future tax increases. Balancing the 2015 budget would require a 43% increase in everyone's income taxes that year. It's hard to imagine a worse detriment to economic growth.

    Presidents and political parties used to propose paths to a balanced budget. After almost doubling it, Mr. Obama proposes to substitute stabilizing the debt/GDP ratio, a much weaker goal.

    That goal requires balancing the budget excluding interest payments, the so-called primary budget. But he never achieves this, even after five and a half years of economic growth, withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, and repaid financial bailouts. The 2015 budget still calls for a primary deficit of $181 billion.

    For perspective, returning 2015 spending to population growth plus inflation produces a primary surplus of $645 billion (3.3% of GDP). Mr. Obama's spending turns a short-run crisis into a medium-term debacle.

    Two factors greatly compound the risk from Mr. Obama's budget plan. He is running up this debt and current and future taxes just as the baby boomers are retiring and the entitlement cost problems are growing, which will necessitate major reform. (Mr. Obama didn't get any help from his predecessors: George W. Bush's growing Medicare prescription drug benefit was not funded, and Mr. Clinton's Social Security reform was a casualty of the Monica Lewinsky scandal.) And Mr. Obama's programs increase the fraction of people getting more money back from the government than the taxes they pay almost to 50%, just as the demographics on an aging population will drive it up further. That's an unhealthy political dynamic.

    Former Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker famously called Reaganomics—with its defense buildup, tax cuts and budget deficits—a "riverboat gamble." (Which, by the way, worked out well.) Mr. Obama's fiscal strategy is more akin to the voyage of the Titanic. Let's hope he changes course soon enough to prevent disaster.

    Mr. Boskin is a professor of economics at Stanford University and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He chaired the Council of Economic Advisers under President George H.W. Bush.

  • Mark Smither
    Comment from: Mark Smither
    02/14/10 @ 02:50:43 pm

    Ross, you sent me an opinion piece to support Dick Morris who was taken apart point by point in the link I sent you. That doesn't seem like supporting evidence. (There's a common denominator between FoxNews and the WSJ opinion page as well.)

    And Boskin was amongst those who had their hands on the wheel and nearly succeeded at driving the economy off a cliff. Here are a few links that dispute the wisdom, veracity and balanced viewpoint of the Professor:

    http://savecapitalism.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/hot-wsj-breaks-hypocrisy-record/

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/01/why-michael-boskin-deserves-our-contempt/

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/01/economists-serving-their-political-masters/

    A quote from the last piece: "Professionals, at any rate, have seen fit to keep Michael Boskin at the summit after he succumbed to “seductive blandishments of politics and politicians.” It cannot be said that Boskin dishonored his profession, since he is still a superstar. Other professions institute bodies such as the American Bar Association and the American Medical Association that take action against negligence."

  • Comment from: Rossputin
    02/14/10 @ 02:55:07 pm

    Mark,


    I didn't read Morris and I never waste my time with Media Matters. They provide far more fiction than fact.

    I sent you the Boskin piece because it seemed relevant and I had read it just a few hours before your comments.

    I just can't do more research on everything every reader wants to debate!

    Listen in to the radio show today if you have any time.

    RGK

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