Some real history of "green jobs"
In a June 1st editorial entitled “Foreclosures: No End in Sight”, the New York Times correctly suggests that robust job creation and economic growth is likely to be the only real solution for the “relentless rise in foreclosures.”
However, their prescription to create that growth is replete with errors and economic fallacies. The Times says:
President Obama needs to put more effort and political capital into promoting the middle-class agenda that he outlined during the campaign, including a push for new jobs in new industries, expanded union membership and a fairer distribution of profits among shareholders, executives and employees.
Many people will readily understand why a push for expanded union membership may not be conducive to economic growth (with GM the poster child for that discussion) as well as why a “fairer distribution of profits” – to be determined by politicians – is anathema to a functioning capitalist system.
A more subtle argument, however, is the idea of “jobs in new industries”, a plan likely to be as destructive in practice as it is seductive in rhetoric, if history is any guide.
The only “new industries” which President Obama speaks about with any frequency relate to renewable energy, with his calls for “green jobs”. However, a study from Rey Juan Carlos University in Madrid, “the very first…critical analysis of the actual performance and impact…of the Spanish/EU-style ‘green jobs’ agenda”, shows that we can expect President Obama’s focus to substantially raise unemployment at great cost to taxpayers.
Some of the key findings of the study:
• “For every renewable energy job that the State manages to finance, Spain’s experience cited by President Obama as a model reveals with high confidence, by two different methods, that the U.S. should expect a loss of at least 2.2 jobs on average, or about 9 jobs lost for every 4 created, to which we have to add those jobs that non-subsidized investments with the same resources would have created.” Therefore, the US should expect to lose up to 11 million jobs in President Obama’s quest to create 5 million “green jobs”.
• “Since 2000 Spain spent (over $800,000) to create each ‘green job’, including subsidies of more than $1.4 million per wind industry job.”
• “Each “green” megawatt installed destroys 5.28 jobs on average elsewhere in the economy: 8.99 by photovoltaics, 4.27 by wind energy, 5.05 by mini-hydro. These costs do not appear to be unique to Spain’s approach but instead are largely inherent in schemes to promote renewable energy sources.”
• Despite “creating a surprisingly low number of jobs”, 90% of those jobs were essentially temporary, i.e. in construction and marketing, “and just one out of ten jobs has been created at (a) more permanent level.”
• Renewables consume enormous taxpayer resources. In Spain, the average annuity payable to renewables is equivalent to 4.35% of all VAT (national sales tax) collected, 3.45% of the household income tax, or 5.6% of the corporate income tax for 2007.
The New York Times does recognize the importance of economic growth in solving our nation’s housing woes, but then lapses into an economic prescription much more likely to kill the patient than to cure it.
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06/08/09 @ 09:02:15 am
Well, I don't see a solution listed in your article.
Is there a solution? I mean clearly, we have to do something. There are not infinite amounts of fossil fuels in this world. Granted, you and I may be dead by the time they run out, but your children might like to be able to have some energy to use when they are our age...
Are you suggesting that O'bama do nothing because historically trying to help has not actually helped?
I can dig that..
Forget Obama for a second. How can we get privatized dollars to invest more money into alternative energy?
Or is it a supply/demand thing. We wont do anything until it is too late, or filling up the Touareg costs you a grand?
06/08/09 @ 12:59:03 pm
Idorego,
I didn't offer a solution...if anything that would just distract from the main point that "green jobs" are a problem, not an answer.
To the extent that there is a solution it is for government to get the hell out of the way -- and to promise that it will not many ANY energy policy for a decade or more. Let private industry develop conventional and alternative energy sources in a rational way without fear of the rules being changed mid-game.
We don't need more money going into alternative energy in any case right now, at least not on a major scale, because it's not efficient yet -- and it may never be.
Also, I suggest that the quantity of fossil fuel on the planet is for all real purposes infinite. Proven reserves go up almost every year even though we've now used more oil than what at one time was the entire estimate for proven reserves. And we're just getting started with natural gas, shale oil, etc.
By the time we're even vaguely close to running out of oil or natural gas, which will be many hundreds or thousands of years, technology will have advanced far beyond anything we're considering now. And maybe the political landscape will have changed enough to allow more nuclear energy, the increased use of which would be the single best thing we could do here.
06/08/09 @ 07:11:48 pm
Ross,
Really? no, Really?? INFINITE Fossil Fuels?? Surely, you are more pragmatic than that...
How fast is the world population increasing?
How many of those people will be driving vehicles? How many of those people will live in homes that require electricity or natural gas for heat/cooking/cooling etc? Multiply that growth chart by 50 years and you'll see how fast your infinite fossil fuels will last.
Look, I'm not saying that alternative fuels are the panacea to the worlds energy issues, I'm simply worried about the repercussions we all will face by not looking towards alternative answers now in order to avert a freakishly bad situation later...
06/08/09 @ 09:53:31 pm
I didn't say they are theoretically infinite, but that they are likely effectively infinite for dozens of generations to come. I realize it sounds crazy, but if someone told you in the 1950s or 1960s that by 2008 we would have used all of the then-proven reserves and would then have far greater proven reserves, you would have thought that quite unlikely...
05/11/10 @ 10:57:28 am
Green jobs and black jobs are needed. They compliment each other. I believe you have a different agenda for your post. I believe you want government out of your affairs so you can do what you want, without regard for anyone else. Using Spain as an example of what could happen in the U.S. if we turn to new green jobs, is like comparing apples to oranges. Their culture is far different from the American culture. I believe your are a selfish plunderer of the Earth's resources. Take what you can now, before someone else gets it, is probably your mantra. I conclude that your thinking is the roadblock, not the solution to economic and environmental sustainability.
05/11/10 @ 02:31:22 pm
Green jobs are unsustainable without government subsidies at this time. That means you are stealing money from some people to fund jobs for other people.
What does "culture" have to do with whether green jobs are economically viable? Your argument is ridiculous.
Yes, I want government out of my affairs so I can do what I want, with or without regard for anyone else, as long as I am not infringing on anyone else's rights. What's wrong with that?
Assuming that people can't get away with fraud or theft, how do rich people get rich? Did Bill Gates get rich by plundering? Or the Walton family (founders of WalMart)? No, they provided a product or service for which people are willing to pay them more than their costs. Pretty basic.
You clearly don't understand economics. I encourage you to keep reading these pages. You might learn something.